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What's the Big Deal with Amy Winehouse?

Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:53 AM EDT
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Since her 2007 break out album Back to Black, Amy Winehouse has become a tabloid queen. The world watches with pity and fascination as she plays out a classic tale of the drug addicted songstress on a downward spiral. Winehouse may have thwarted the sophomore slump with Back to Black - winning critical acclaim and five Grammys in February, including Best New Artist - however, Winehouse's success has been plagued with the dark cloud of her drug and alcohol addiction causing sloppy and/or canceled performances, as well as a cornucopia of health and legal problems.

Why the seemingly public obsession with Winehouse's tragic persona? In fact, addiction and eccentricity have long gone hand in hand with creativity. Some of the greatest musicians, actors, and artists of all time have been reclusive, severely chemically dependent, or plagued by mental illness or known for some pretty strange and quirky behavior. Amy Winehouse certainly does not have a monopoly on quirky and addicted. So why the hubbub? Really, what is the big deal?

Please don't mistake my tone for apathy. On the contrary, the affliction of "divine madness" is a serious condition, and I find it quite deplorable the level of voyeurism to which we have succumbed wherein we view dysfunction as entertainment. Recently, Rolling Stone sent journalist Claire Hoffman to London "for a first hand look at Amy Winehouse." Hoffman paints a picture of a spaced-out, flighty, obviously stoned Winehouse, rambling devotion to her incarcerated husband, Blake Fielder-Civil. Prior to being allowed into Winehouse's abode, Hoffman stood outside with the "ever present" paparazzi. In the video, you can see that Winehouse thrives on the attention, waving to the cameras and making a statement as the cameras flash in her face.

She opens the door, and on cue a firestorm of flashbulbs surrounds her, voices crying her name. "Amy! Amy! Amy!"

"I guess I should apologize," she starts, fluttering her eyes, swaying her hips, flipping and tucking her hair innocently.

"Don't apologize, Amy, don't apologize!" the photographers shout as they blast her with their flash fusillade. "We love you, and your friends love you!" "What next, Amy?" they cry. "What are you going to call your new album?"

She smiles, making them wonder if she'll answer, and then wickedly says, "Black Don't Crack."

As we cluck our tongues and talk about how much of a train wreck Winehouse is, we watch with curious dread and anticipation. Out of control, barreling down the tracks, and headed straight for destruction, Winehouse doesn't even seem to be able to get it together enough to stay alive, let alone make her next album. Having been replaced as the singer of the theme to the next James Bond movie, it would suggest that the tendency toward drama is working against Winehouse, rather than in her favor.

Quiet as is kept, tabloid love is just as unhealthy as drug and alcohol addiction. In fact, the paparazzi are like vultures circling Winehouse with their shouts of adulation, while they snicker and wait for her to hit rock bottom. Her destructive life and behavior pays their salaries. Personally, I'd prefer Amy to be healthy and to continue making music. Her voice has a raspy and smoky quality, and her music is a contemporary twist on the do-whop era - all of which has captivated millions. While her second album was the one to earn Winehouse notoriety, you can almost tell that she was healthier with her first album Frank. In those earlier days, her voice wasn't quite as raspy and she had more meat on her bones. As it stands now, the angst that fueled Back to Black - and likely the addiction as well - is cancerous as is the type of tabloid fan fair constantly outside her house, shouting her name with flashing cameras.

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kymlee

The whole thing is a mess really. I wish people (or the news) wouldn't focus so on negative behavior. Corinne Bailey Rae came out around the same time, but doesn't get nearly as much publicity; I think it's because she's a good girl.

  • 5 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:55 AM EDT
Eric Atienza

I actually think my favorite songs by her are the ones that aren't hits. The less poppy ones. I think she has potential to be taken seriously but at this point is a sideshow, though I do think her potential doesn't yet validate how much attention she's gotten.

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:15 AM EDT
kymlee

I hardly ever listen to her singles, but she's got some good tracks on her albums. Potential is one thing, reaching that potential is another. If she doesn't get her @!$%# together, she probably never will actualize that potential.

  • 5 votes
#2.1 - Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:07 PM EDT
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greck

She makes interesting music.

The fact is, she's got the goods.

That's the big deal. That would be enough to make me care, honestly.

Then of course, you find out that her life really kinda is like her songs; that she probably hasn't taken any or much artistic license with the lyrics and themes. They may even be toned down a bit.

In a world where pop stars can be prefabricated right in front of our eyes with absolutely no need to be connected to their material, I think that means something.

I seriously doubt Carrie Underwood has ever trashed an ex boyfriend's car, and can "shoot whiskey" to the extent that she has a leg to stand on when making fun of her romantic rival for drinking a fruity girl drink, but I have no doubt in my mind that they want to send Amy to rehab.

y'know, come to think of it, I bet Joan Jett does give a damn about her reputation...

  • 4 votes
Reply#3 - Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:17 PM EDT
Eric Atienza

She kinda has the goods. I think she has talent, but I think (as Kim already mentioned) Corrine Bailey Rae or Sharon Jones carry far more in the same vein, yet they aren't the ones getting all the attention.

  • 5 votes
#3.1 - Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:22 PM EDT
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Scott (Scoop) Butki

I've been meaning to suggest someone do a what's the big deal with AW. Glad you did.

  • 2 votes
Reply#4 - Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:02 PM EDT
fedup with being pc

I'm not a fan of her music. Like it's been stated, what IS the big deal about her?
Let her destroy herself in peace because that's all she's doing.

  • 1 vote
Reply#5 - Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:25 PM EDT
Spooky Boyfriend

I'd like to see her fade away into obscurity but she won't go, go go...

  • 1 vote
#5.1 - Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:56 PM EDT
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Ms CYPRAH

Could it be a combination of natural beauty, too much success too quickly, no real sense of direction or purpose, poor relationship with her parents, lack of sensitivity for others, a desire for constant attention (like Britney Spears?)...where do I stop? I could go on...:o(

She is fodder for the press just now because they like lose cannons like that who are hell bent on self destruction. We are still suckers for a 'damsel in distress' mentality. Makes good copy, keeps readers buying the papers while giving Amy cynical exposure for her music. Really tragic, especially the example being set for youngsters.

  • 4 votes
Reply#7 - Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:43 PM EDT
greck

I gotta say MsCyprah,

I really don't think she's very attractive.

I mean, she's not UNattractive, but I just don't picture mechanics having Amy Winehouse pinup calendars in their garages. I certainly wouldn't liken the dynamic of her career to that of Brittney's. With her, I think musical talent takes the front seat, and if the audience happens to find her attractive, that's nice too.

she could be less attractive and have the same appeal is what I'm trying to say i guess, whereas there are many singers out there whose music would just be white noise without their aesthetic value (case in point, the aforementioned Spears).

  • 2 votes
#7.1 - Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:08 PM EDT
Jared Kardos

I really don't think she's very attractive.

Well, she did look a lot healthier and cuter during the time of her first album, before the crack and the skin condition. Now, the first thing I think is "parademon."

Which is sad, because she definately has some talent in her.

  • 2 votes
#7.2 - Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:48 PM EDT
Bill Harrison

Couple of pics of Amy before she took up the pipe.

No one should believe that old rock n roll live hard, die young and at the top of one's game crap for a minute. In my generation both Jim Morrison and Janis Joplin ruined their music with their indulgences before the former died a bloated drunk has-been before his 30th birthday and the latter threw away her talent on booze and heroin.

  • 3 votes
#7.3 - Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:58 PM EDT
kymlee

Yeah, she was definitely healthier when she made her first album. Even still though, I don't think I've ever heard anyone refer to Winehouse as beautiful or attractive. One thing that really keeps me from comparing her career to that of Brittney Spears or even Lindsay Lohan is that both of those girls had a bit of longevity, both starting out as child stars and falling into drugs and alcoholism after having at least a decade of a good run.

I'm with you though Bill, living hard and dying young don't seem at all attractive to me and it seems a waist of talent and time to ruin your livelihood for the sake of an image. Ultimately, Winehouse is going to have to decide which is more important. Already, her producer doesn't want to work with her, so she has some serious soul searching to do.

  • 2 votes
#7.4 - Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:34 AM EDT
Bill Harrison

Yep. People of my age like to pretend that today's dinosaurs of rock were much better back in their partying heydays. That may be true of the studio albums which were highly produced with the band members on their best behavior. It was manifestly not true of some of their live performances. I remember one James Taylor concert when he was strung out on heroin to the point of near incoherence. Not good.

  • 4 votes
#7.5 - Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:02 PM EDT
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Skyi_2

She kinda makes me think of how Brittney Spears was befor someone stepped in and made her get some help. But nones gonna do it if they are all riding her coat tail and shes footing the bill. Its just sad.

  • 2 votes
Reply#8 - Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:51 PM EDT
kymlee

The main difference being that Brittney Spears had a music career that lasted more than one hit album before she went off the deep end.

You bring up a good point about the hangers-on and sycophants that tend to surround celebrities; they never want to tell them the truth. In the Rolling Stone interview, there is a friend with Amy who obviously is not comfortable with her crack use and tells her so. She also tells her she needs to get away from the people who take advantage and use her. At a certain point though, you have to let people learn things on their own and love them anyway.

  • 2 votes
#8.1 - Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:28 AM EDT
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Samantha Gluck

Why the seemingly public obsession with Winehouse's tragic persona?

I totally see the points you made, why they are absolutely true, and how you came to ask the question above. Why her and not the countless other drug addicted tragic stars out there?

My simple, smart-ass, answer is: "They try to make me go to rehab...I say no, no, no..."
Many others in her situation go to rehab to quell the public with no intention of recovery or they deny the problem all together. I think what others find fascinating about her is that she doesn't deny her problem yet she also doesn't 'fake' her desire for recovery. People may respect that attitude, however tragic, because they are sick of being lied to by pretentious, privileged, spoiled stars.

  • 5 votes
Reply#9 - Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:20 AM EDT
kymlee

Heh, she's famous for famously refusing to go to rehab. I think another part of it is that she doesn't run from the attention. There are people who literally hide from the paparazzi and avoid the negative attention successfully; Winehouse continues to soak it up no matter how destructive. It's sad though that they pump her up with "Amy we love you's!" as she continues to ruin her life and career with her addiction.

People may respect that attitude, however tragic, because they are sick of being lied to by pretentious, privileged, spoiled stars.

I might believe that if they weren't also obsessed with the very stars of which you speak. Truthfully, I think the public likes to see the worst in people. They like to look at others and say, see I'm not so bad after all. Then there are those (a minority?) that really like to see people (famous or not) make positive moves. I'm personally tired of seeing all the news about Brittney's breakdown (which has actually quieted down a little) and Lilo's roller-coaster ride with her own addiction, and celebutaunts being stupid. How about something positive for the youth to look at?

  • 4 votes
#9.1 - Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:07 PM EDT
Samantha Gluck

Truthfully, I think the public likes to see the worst in people.

That is indeed a sad fact, I think. Increasingly, I see news programs, newspaper articles and books debunking the character of some long-standing American or world renowned hero. Its almost as if they are jealous and to see these greats fall from grace somehow makes them (the public) rise up. In fact, it degrades them all the more.

  • 4 votes
#9.2 - Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:12 PM EDT
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Jessyca

It seems like it is good to do things that are bad. No matter if it is negative attention or positive attention it still is good publicity.

  • 2 votes
Reply#10 - Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:18 AM EDT
caroaber

For some reason, she gets pity while Pete Doherty gets revulsion and disapproval. Whitney Houston was laughed at and ridiculed, but it seems the world wants to give Amy a hug.

I like her music and I don't want to see a 20-something die. But it's not my first impulse to infantilize an adult. She could take charge of her life and allow her father to help her. For now, she refuses.

There are other British acts--Jamelia Davis among them, who'd love to break through to the U.S. market.

  • 2 votes
Reply#11 - Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:59 AM EDT
kymlee

But it's not my first impulse to infantilize an adult.

I am completely with you on that one caroaber. It seems to me that she is wallowing in the addiction and thriving off of the attention - negative or not - and its really sickening at times. Especially in the light of so many other artists who are actually trying to utilize their potential to the fullest. I say if she wants to destroy herself, then she doesn't deserve the adulation and attention she receives.

  • 2 votes
#11.1 - Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:17 PM EDT
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kymlee

That comment was only deleted because it was a duplicate...

    Reply#13 - Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:18 PM EDT
    Scott (Scoop) Butki

    Apropos of nothing beyond that I'm thinking about music and listening to a tribute album to queen may I suggest someone write a What's The Big Deal With Queen? Or do we only do ones on active bands?

    • 3 votes
    Reply#14 - Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:07 PM EDT
    Spooky Boyfriend

    Scaramouche, Scaramouche, can you do the fandango?

    • 4 votes
    #14.1 - Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:10 PM EDT
    DamianKD

    Thunder bolt and lightning, very, very frightening me!

    Gah. Funny what something as simple as reading a series of words can trigger a song playing in your head...

    • 2 votes
    #14.2 - Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:04 PM EDT
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    Scott (Scoop) Butki

    Warning: cynical musings below
    I have to wonder if at this point a portion of her fans, especially for her rare live appearances, are as much interested in viewing her personal self-destruction as her music.
    It reminds me a bit of Janis Joplin and her early death. I've heard that near the end Janis on stage was frustrated that the public had an image of her they wanted to see (getting drunk, screaming, etc) and when she tried to do something fun or new or creative that varied from that she'd get flak. I

    • 3 votes
    #15 - Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:13 PM EDT
    kymlee

    I'd be pissed if I went to a show and the performer was so intoxicated that he/she could barely do what he/she was being paid to do, which is perform. I think the best performers are professional - meaning they do their jobs with professional quality not that they get paid - and being drunk and/or stoned to the point of incoherence is not professional at all.

    • 4 votes
    #15.1 - Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:22 PM EDT
    Scott (Scoop) Butki

    I'd be pissed if I went to a show and the performer was so intoxicated that he/she could barely do what he/she was being paid to do, which is perform. I think the best performers are professional - meaning they do their jobs with professional quality not that they get paid - and being drunk and/or stoned to the point of incoherence is not professional at all.

    Yes but what if you went expecting that performer to be crazy or drunk or yelling at his brother (I'm looking at you, Oasis) or rude to the fans and instead they didn't do that.

    I understand what you mean - I'd want the best act possible - too but my point is some don't go for the music. They go for the spectacle and are disappointed if they are robbed of it.

    It'd be like going to a hockey game hoping for a good fight and being disappointed when none took place.

    Or maybe a better comparison is baseball - watching the game is fun but personally I go for the spectacle of the specators, the weirdos, etc and thus I can't watch it on tv because then it's just so boring.

    • 2 votes
    #15.2 - Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:16 PM EDT
    kymlee

    Oh, see I guess I don't really care much for spectacle. I don't see the point in paying to see spectacle...hell, I can walk outside my door and see all the spectacle I need to see. I don't like baseball and certainly wouldn't pay for a ticket just to watch people make fools of themselves. Of course, my friends say I don't know what I'm missing and I say, you can't miss what you've never had.

    I suppose all of this goes to my personality though. I've never been one to laugh when someone fell or when people where playing the dozens. I don't find humor in suffering, even if the person suffering (and yes I would consider drug/alcohol addicted people suffering) turns it into entertainment. I've always found it rather sad to watch musicians and other creative types go through their addictions publicly. I much more value a good performance over spectacle...unless of course I'm at an improve or comedy club. :)

    • 2 votes
    #15.3 - Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:40 PM EDT
    Scott (Scoop) Butki

    I suppose all of this goes to my personality though. I've never been one to laugh when someone fell or when people w

    Oh me either but then I never got the appeal of the Jackass show or movies but they did well commercially.

    How about a What's the Big Deal With Gnarls Barkley?

    • 1 vote
    #15.4 - Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:32 PM EDT
    kymlee

    How about a What's the Big Deal With Gnarls Barkley?

    Hmmm...I might just take you up on that suggestion. :)

    • 2 votes
    #15.5 - Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:34 PM EDT
    Scott (Scoop) Butki

    I rarely buy actual cds the other day but I bought the two GB albums the other day.

    • 2 votes
    #15.6 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:36 PM EDT
    kymlee

    I like them both. The first one I got into easily but the second one had to grow on me a little. I don't mind that though. I'm a fan of both Cee-Lo and Danger Mouse, so even though I wasn't as enthralled with the second album at first, I've grown to love it.

    • 2 votes
    #15.7 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:08 PM EDT
    Scott (Scoop) Butki

    As I mentioned in a discussion with you (i forget where - I think it was the mtv one) about rap I bought Gnarls Barkley as a compromise between a special needs adult who refused to listen to anything but rap and me, who likes some rap but dreads the gangsta rap this guy loved. Plus th e last thing you want a special needs adults with violent tendencies and mental and prior run-ins with the cops to be listening to is songs about killing cops not to mention hearing him referring to women as... well, the things he'd hear his favorite rappers calling women.

    Don't know if music and movies truly influences the average person but there's a direct clear correlation with the population I work with.

    Anyway he'd let me play Gnarls Barkley and Indira Arie and if that stopped him temporarily from playing some gangsta crap rap for a while that was good.

    • 1 vote
    #15.8 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:26 PM EDT
    Spooky Boyfriend

    It was my introduction to "mash-up"; I really got into the "Gray Album" and I wasn't all that familiar with JayZee. I really like the the disregard for all copyright propriety. I'm just that kind of feller...

    The other reason Amy Winehouse got big like a blow-up doll on nitro was timing. It was a summer hit song playing all the time everywhere where youts' were scanting about with there flat bellies and their underpants out. It happens every year. Do you remember Men at Work? Do you remember those two fellas suggesting to the young ladies to shake it like a Polaroid picture? Do you remember Mr. Checker requesting us to twist again , like we did last summer? Alas, sweet bird of youth, how thou flown. It seems just yesterday that I was frolicking barefoot in the dewy green grass of youth. Today I find myself hobbling on bunions in the crab grass of middle age...

    • 1 vote
    #15.9 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:56 PM EDT
    Scott (Scoop) Butki

    I've never listened to the Gray album. is it good?

      #15.10 - Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:59 AM EDT
      kymlee

      It's really good. Has the far off, muted retro sound, DM favors but I'm mad that by the time I heard it that there didn't seem to be a download to be found. If anyone finds it, please let me know.

      Jay-Z's Black Album is one of my favorites and he liked classic rock samples. And it was definitely a well arranged mashup, one of the best I've ever heard.

      • 1 vote
      #15.11 - Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:55 PM EDT
      Spooky Boyfriend

      kymlee,
      what are your other favorite mash-ups?

      I was at a club in S.F. and heard a great mash-up of the Carpenters "We've Only Just Begun" and Marley's "Three Little Birds" and some newish ( ...funny, you don't look newish... ) Cold Play or Oasis or one of those Brit bands kids like so much now-a-days.

        #15.12 - Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:04 PM EDT
        Scott (Scoop) Butki

        Kymlee, if you get me copies of the Black Album and the Gray Album I'll not only listen to them but reconsider my distaste for all things jay z

        • 1 vote
        #15.13 - Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:37 PM EDT
        kymlee

        I like Girl Talk. Some of his stuff is hit and miss but it's fun for the most part. The miss with mashups is usually in the arrangement; sometimes the timing is a little off, but that could be intentional. I will admit that I don't like many.

        There's a sample on this review of his latest release Feed The Animals - a pay-what-you-want download. Most agree that his first release was better.

        • 3 votes
        #15.14 - Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:08 PM EDT
        Scott (Scoop) Butki

        I've been wanting to sample girltalk. I'll have to try out that link sometime

        • 1 vote
        #15.15 - Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:13 PM EDT
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        Jessi Sanders

        I have never listened to her music and really never plan to. I don't see the big deal with her. If it had not been for drug problems i would not ever have heard of her. It should be her music that gives her a reputation not addictions

        • 1 vote
        Reply#16 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:09 AM EDT
        kymlee

        It should be her music that gives her a reputation not addictions

        Bingo! For me that's the turn off. Her music is alright, it's a little different...but even her being different is sort of in keeping with the trend toward retro sounds. It's a subtle trend, I've noticed it nonetheless.

        It's really irritating that her drug addiction is more famous than her music though.

        • 1 vote
        #16.1 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:13 PM EDT
        Scott (Scoop) Butki

        She reminds me of two other female musicians - Norah Jones and Joss Stone who were also considered the next huge thing but whom I've not heard much of late. Is the fact they have not had scandals hurt them rather than helped them?

          #16.2 - Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:38 PM EDT
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